Comments on: Premise 2

By: anonymous

anonymous — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:52:19 +0000

You do realize that the natives on the east coast regularly burnt large tracks of forest in order to encourage the growth of forests they wanted, flattened the tops of hog’s back hills over generations to grow corn on them, and circled hunted large game within their own territory to increase the mast crop they could collect while keeping a living population of large game only a day or two away by foot travel. When 95% of the natives died due to small pox the forest grew back up and game increased in number.
Really just look at the middens in Pennsylvania.
1300=no passenger pigeons, no elk
1800=crapload of passenger pigeons, some elk
1900=no passenger pigeons, no elk

You are all holding on to this Noble Savage ideal that never existed, frankly its an insult to the natives. They had grand empires like the Sioux Confederation. Don’t read third had accounts of the natives written in the 1800s. Read the translations of the original Sioux documents or the accounts of the very first explorers who claimed that the eastern seaboard was densely populated and not one stream didn’t have a net strung across it.

By: Christine

Christine — Sat, 29 May 2010 01:31:10 +0000

Thank you Derrick for your 2nd premise, thank you Franklin for a great video.

By: Nihilo Zero

Nihilo Zero — Wed, 26 May 2010 23:49:56 +0000

Great vid. I do question the notion about whether or not the Europeans had superior “firepower” when they invaded. Their invasion was backed by the spread of their diseases (to which they had a relative immunity) and their shockingly aggressive and Machiavellian nature which must have completely caught the first peoples by utter surprise. Beyond that though… the quick-firing bow and arrow, the spear, and simply fit bodies were a vastly superior weapon to the single-shot musket. If the first peoples were more violently inclined, at the initial contact periods, the Europeans would have easily been done away with — due to the potential for guerrilla warfare and the aforementioned militaristic advantages. As it is, what actually happened, was that the least healthy people in the world (with the shortest life expectancies) invaded and brought their diseases to, quite arguably, the healthiest people on the planet.

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